espiti
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Post by espiti on Sept 12, 2007 19:16:27 GMT -5
I read somewhere on the forum that some Bjärtons were made with laminated back and sides. Does someone know which models were made of solid wood and which ones were not? Or is it after a certain date that production switched to laminated wood? Also, pardon my ignorance, but could someone explain to me why I see the spellings Bjerton and Bjärton for instruments obviously made by the same company...? Thanks in advance for your input.
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Post by robbi on Sept 13, 2007 9:44:10 GMT -5
I read somewhere on the forum that some Bjärtons were made with laminated back and sides. Does someone know which models were made of solid wood and which ones were not? Or is it after a certain date that production switched to laminated wood? Also, pardon my ignorance, but could someone explain to me why I see the spellings Bjerton and Bjärton for instruments obviously made by the same company...? Thanks in advance for your input. The thing is with the laminate woods that the guitarsbuilders of Bjärton didn't wanted to call it laminate cause it was something else. They called it "Spärrträ". It was pressed and glued in another way with cetrain direction of the wood and pressed under very hot conditions. The "spärrträ" is common on many models any during the whole period. The models made in solid wood is basically the most expencive models like Espana, Classic, Estrella and some more. I could be wrong about certain models though. The line of "schoolguitars" was made in spärrträ and one model (minor) was all spärrträ. The fact you have to think about, cause it seems that this bothers you a bit?, is that a lower range all solid guitars is not necassary a good guitar. Its often second graded wood and the fact is that a laminated guitar can be much better, in that price range anyway. The different Bjärton models compeded in their certain price ranges and was known for having a bit better quality then other brands in the same price range. If you compaire a better all solid Levin, for an example, that was more expencive, you problaby find an all solid Bjärton in that certain price range. If you compare a cheaper Levin you problaby find a quite good quality Bjärton with spärrträ in the same price range. You maby find that the Levin is maby not that great, even all solid, but the Bjärton will be. Don't get me wrong here, I endore Levin guitars as well, anyway the more expencive ones. The next fact is that the bottom and sides doesnt affect the sound that much. It seems stupid, if you're supposed to build a guitar in a certain price range and you built it all solid wood and have to cut down on the overall quality rather than built a good quality solid top and chose to cut down on the backs and sides. Which one sounds best? I think, this is my personal opinion, that the solid top on a Bjärton is better than the top of a other brand with all solid wood in the same price range. Somewhere you have to cut the expencives and stick to the price range, and I rather cut down on back and sides then the solid top. I hope this replay answers you questions? Regards Robbi
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espiti
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Post by espiti on Sept 13, 2007 13:17:32 GMT -5
Thanks for taking the time to reply, Robbi.
I am not yet familiar with the model names used in Sweden. They seem to differ from the model names used in North America — not all but quite a few. Most of the Swedish Bjärtons (branded Espana, Hagstrom or Fender) I see here (classic, not steel-string) are solid wood. Did we only get high-end Bjärtons? I don' know. I have seen very similar Espana-branded models, made in Finland (presumably by Landola), with laminated b & s. The tops are most always solid, wherever the models were made.
I do understand the commercial reasons which would lead to the use of laminated wood on guitars and most manufacturers have done it for the same reasons. I also understand that Bjärton had to compete at various price points and had to offer the best value for the money against competitors. However, all these brands also offered solid wood guitars at the higher end. I would assume THEY considered these solid wood guitars to be better and, therefore, more expensive...
I do not mean to judge which is better, though, just to find out which model uses what. Knowing what you buy is always a good thing, isn't it?
I wish I could read Swedish... There seems to be LOT of information here, inaccessible to me, unfortunately.
Cheers!
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Post by robbi on Sept 14, 2007 3:42:27 GMT -5
Thanks for taking the time to reply, Robbi. I wish I could read Swedish... There seems to be LOT of information here, inaccessible to me, unfortunately. Cheers! Do you meen on this forum section or do you have problem to access the english version of the website?
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Post by Benjamin Frey on Sept 29, 2008 12:52:52 GMT -5
I see the spellings Bjerton and Bjärton for instruments obviously made by the same company...? Thanks in advance for your input. US Keyboards don't have ö/ä/ü-characters therefore in the US most people write it as Bjarton or Bjerton, Bjärton would be correct however.
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Post by Peter on Oct 12, 2008 1:48:45 GMT -5
I see the spellings Bjerton and Bjärton for instruments obviously made by the same company...? Thanks in advance for your input. US Keyboards don't have ö/ä/ü-characters therefore in the US most people write it as Bjarton or Bjerton, Bjärton would be correct however. They have made guitars with "Bjerton" labels too
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